It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:12 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 46 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:22 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
i have read a few treads about doing this and it seems the problem is the push bar is too long/servo to close to bulkhead has anyone found a easy solution to this yet? to get the pedal travel and stop the bar being pushed in at rest?

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
guess nobody understands lol ok what is the thread size of the ms's studs please

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:40 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 23, 2003 11:04 pm
Posts: 22291
Location: County Durham.
Only solutions I've seen have been to space out the servo with nuts to take the servo further away from the bar.
The other is to take the bar on the servo and cut and weld it.

Jason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:32 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
ive heard people complain that you can't space the servo out enougth to get it correct you can level it but not get the brake bar to servo spacing correct

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:24 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
i need to get some people on side that have done this mod and had the same problems ive been looking at the job and was thinking this might help with the pedal travel
Image
basic re drill the hole here so the final leveling and adjustment can be made with the nuts i want to know if it sounds like a viable solution i won't be doing the convertion till mid july when im off work so im just looking for ideas to keep it simple and hopefully make a mini guide for others

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:57 am
Posts: 1281
Hasn't XR2rep done this on his? I'm sure that was low spec

_________________
Red Shed
Beige Rotbox RIP
TD Project


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
a few pleople have but there is pressure on the brakes without the pedal pressed im thinking if this hole is drilled you should be able to claim about 12mm of slack on the movement of the bar if people think it will work ill give it a try next month

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Posts: 15633
Location: blackburn, lancashire
you won't be able to re-drill the hole there are the transfer bar is too thick and won't go in deep enough as standard.

_________________
Image
THE WHITE XRTT


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
it might not be able to go in all the way but any movement that way is going to help! looking at my transfare bar it should get most of the way its almost vertical into this joint

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Posts: 15633
Location: blackburn, lancashire
mod the transfer bar, that way if the servo goes duff you can fit one off the shelf with no messing then.
that is why i set about modifying brackets for mine and over twenty others on late spec xr2 brackets.

_________________
Image
THE WHITE XRTT


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:23 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 23, 2003 9:56 pm
Posts: 4483
Location: Sunny Yorkshire
On my last car I used cut and rewelded XR2 brackets with a full XR2 setup. This time I haven't modded anything, the brake pedal sits at the same height as the accelerator and at both mot's the tester has said they were really good.

Hope these pics help.

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
Sean XR2 ZT wrote:
mod the transfer bar, that way if the servo goes duff you can fit one off the shelf with no messing then.
that is why i set about modifying brackets for mine and over twenty others on late spec xr2 brackets.


it will take 30 second to drill 2 new holes once the measurments are know so im no to worried about that

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Posts: 15633
Location: blackburn, lancashire
i don't disagree in modding the arm, why not.
i just like standard parts to fit to modded adaptors/brackets. that way if anything does fail it's an easy fix, plus my car is worth naff all anyhow, well the shell anyways.

_________________
Image
THE WHITE XRTT


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
looks like its a direct swap but if i do get the problem of binding brakes ill just dremel the hole so its elongated a few mm should fix it. i wonder why it only effects some people?

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Posts: 15633
Location: blackburn, lancashire
i think some people use nuts as spacers, or don't think about the problem at all due to the previous setup being sh!te due to failed servo.
i fitted a mondeo setup to mine with standard brackets and the pedal was low on the floor, and the reservoir was tipping up too much.
so i modified the brackets and the pedal sits perfect and reservoir is level, on xr2 though.

_________________
Image
THE WHITE XRTT


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:09 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 23, 2003 9:56 pm
Posts: 4483
Location: Sunny Yorkshire
i should have said that i did file out the bracket holes a little, but aside from that nothing else.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:48 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
so do all the pipes fit just the same or is there 2 that are wrong what do you call the parts i need to convert the pipes?

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:23 am
Posts: 297
Location: shropshire
just do what i did
make a new pushrod usind 10mm threaded stud and an M12 clevis on the one end and an M10 clevis at the other, i made it oversize and found i had to adjust it about 10mm more with the mondeo setup, but i have no dodgy extra nuts or washers and the pedal is not only spot on but infinatly adjustable

Image

before adjustment

Image

after

Image

_________________
http://Quantumforum.proboards.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:41 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:56 pm
Posts: 698
Location: county durham
looks like you needed it longer rather than shorter

_________________
Faster than a speeding ticket!
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:19 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:11 pm
Posts: 6079
Location: Llandudno
Definitely needs to be shorter. My servo is spaced out as the bar was too long

_________________
"I'm Barry Scott. Wow! You can't beat a bit of turbo power for a speed thrill."

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:37 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 23, 2003 9:56 pm
Posts: 4483
Location: Sunny Yorkshire
i didnt need to convert any pipes, just unscrewed the inline bias valve things from the master cylinder and screwed my lines straight in, my pics should explain exactly how its spaced.

I dont know why people are needing to cut and reweld things with this setup. Im using a servo and master cylinder from an X plate mondeo. On the last car which had the xr2 chopped and rewelded setup I used on from a mk1 mondeo as it didnt have the hydraulic clutch take off which this one does, but it was all I had to hand at the time so I've blanked it off.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:46 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:23 am
Posts: 297
Location: shropshire
kroozin wrote:
looks like you needed it longer rather than shorter


nah, i didnt make the new one to the same lenghth as the old, i just made it up on the car and adjusted to suit

as for the brackets they just dropped straight on with no modifcation at all other than the 2 oposing holes diaganoly needing filing oval

_________________
http://Quantumforum.proboards.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:26 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Posts: 15633
Location: blackburn, lancashire
Ross wrote:
I dont know why people are needing to cut and reweld things with this setup.

on a late spec xr2 if you fit it directly the pedal will be almost on the floor all the time and the servo will tilt down too much and cause levelling issues in the reservoir which the only solution is to overfill the reservoir.
on an early spec xr2 and a base spec these issues don't "appear" to be an issue.

_________________
Image
THE WHITE XRTT


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:16 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 23, 2003 9:56 pm
Posts: 4483
Location: Sunny Yorkshire
I'm aware of the XR2 issue Sean, i re-welded XR2 brackets years ago before i realised that the low spec stuff fitted with no mods, im talking about the low spec brackets here.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:19 pm
Posts: 196
Location: Herefordshire
I like the clevis idea, gotta have another go at getting this set up to work on mine, got pissed off and took it back off a few weeks ago!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 46 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 51 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group